TSR's Super Smash Bros Thread|SWITCH HYPE TRAIN NOW BOARDING

[Koopaul]

I just want DK, Diddy and Bowser to have a voice with actual emotion. You can't even tell, when you hear their grunts, if they are hurting someone or the one's being hurt. They just sound so strange.

[Helmo]

Lucario is voiced by Goku

[Iceman404]

[TomGuycott]

I wonder what the trade off is for that move. Range and power most likely, as well as the fact the tome probably runs out easily.

[Jermungandr]

Hmm ... speaking of running out easy ... I wonder if all your tomes and sword are reset whenever you lose a stock.

Also, in today's update Sakurai acknowledges how Smash sometimes influences the original franchises.

[Koopaul]

Indeed. It's one of the reasons I'm so serious about who gets represented. I know the impact this game can have.

[Kao]

gee robins going to be fun; has it been said if each tome will have the same number of 'charges'? Because this is going to be interestttting.

[Mystie]

robin op

nerf plz

[Kosheh]

robin op

nerf plz

I'm not sure it's been shown yet but I feel like with an attack like that, the whole attack would have to be slow: startup, execution, and wind-down have to be like molasses to consider it balanced...or, so it fits in with the schematics of Smash, at least a gapingly huge wind-down (imagine like missing with any of Ike's smashes or specials. THAT huge of a wind-down where you're exposed for awhile)
I'd imagine it working like a character's grab and then you mash A; it looks like it's within grapple range anyway and the enemy has to be not far from where the tome is shining in the image though anyway - and once it hits it begins inflicting damage with slow, multiple hits while simultaneously healing you - so I can't complain too hard.

Though I think in actual FE it has a really showy animation and it just sucks damage out of the enemy in one go


Also the attack doing more damage from behind is a nice touch - it's vampirey as heck

[TomGuycott]

I actually like the idea of Robin's equipment NOT regenerating with a stock lost. If Robin had superior killing power with full equipment, it could be imbalanced to give him the ability to instantly restock by sacrificing a life.

Granted, this all depends on Robin's actual power with a full set of tomes and his Levin sword.

As for Nosferatu, it likely has a slow startup or ending, and on top of that probably doesn't do THAT much damage, perhaps with the behind attack being an exception.

[Ark Kuvis]

by's recovering health isn't THAT broken. Project M's Ivysaur can recover its health though pummeling, synthesis (its new neutral b), and sweet spotting certain Smash Attacks. It's not AS broken as you might think.

(though Ivysaur was broken as heck during 2.6 because it had WAY to many good techniques. I'm pretty sure it was nerfed hard in 3.0 thank christ.)

[Mystie]

I wasn't serious about the "robin op, nerf plz" post. I have a feeling that it will likely be a very skillful attack, I just felt like having some fun is all.

[Jermungandr]

Jeez look at the size of Pit's feet in comparison to Robin's. Pit, you are a freakish monstrosity.

[Kitsu]

Though...
originally Robin and Lucina had no feet
so uh...

[TomGuycott]

SO I completed my wishlist of costumes. The first of each set is stuff I'd actually expect to be viable given what we've seen. The others... just mindless pandering to my interests in their respective series. xD

[spoiler=Here we go:]
Mario:
Dr Mario
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Strikers Charged armor
Hammer Bros Suit
Famicom Grand Prix
Wrecking Crew hardhat
Yoshi Cookie chef outfit
Super Mario Land 2 Space Suit
Mario Party 2 Cowboy

Luigi:
Dr Luigi
NES Golf
Blue and Yellow color (Miscolor from an old cartoon)
-
Strikers Charged armor
Hammer Bros Suit
Mr. L
Mario Party 2 Space Suit
Parade Outfit (Paper Mario ending)
Famicom Grand Prix
Wrecking Crew hardhat

Peach:
Daisy (Alternate character/voiceover, no extra slot)
Kart Racing
-
Tennis Outfit
Red Hair and White Dress (Super Mario Bros original sprite)
Strikers Charged
Super Paper Mario Wedding Dress
Mario Party 2 Explorer outfit
Cat Suit
Tanuki Suit

Rosalina:
Kart Outfit
Hair Up (Fire Flower)
-
Tanooki
Cat Suit

Bowser:
Dry Bowser
Blue coloring (Original Super Mario Bros artwork)
[spoiler=Bowser's Inside Story spoiler]Dark Bowser (color)[/spoiler]
-
No hair (Super Mario Bros sprite)
Rookie
Yoshi Safari Armor
[spoiler=Dream Team spoiler]Dreamy Bowser (Color)[/spoiler]
Morton (Alternate)
Baby Bowser (Clone)
Wart (Clone)

Yoshi:
Yarn Yoshi
Yoob (Color)
-
Mario Strikers
Mario Strikers Charged
Mario Party 2 Pirate
Boshi (Alt)

Wario:
Pit Hat
Bull Horns Hat
-
No Hat
Vampire Wario
Strikers Charged
Wario DIY Outfit
Thief Wario
Wicked Wario

Link:
Dark Link
Ordon Link
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Zora Armor
Magic Armor
Hero's Shade (Alternate)
Classic Link design (or Link Between Worlds)
Hyrule Warriors
Link's Uncle (Alt)

Toon Link:
Dark Link
Oldschool Link Color
Minish Cap
Second Quest
-
Young Link (Alternate)
Gramps (Alternate)

Zelda:
Hilda Color
-
Link to the Past
Ocarina of Time
Skyward Sword
Hyrule Warriors
Twilight Princess Cloaked

Sheik:
Twilight Princess concept
-
Impa (OoT)
Impa (SS)
Koga (Clone)
Shadow Triad (Clone)

Ganondorf:
Ocarina of Time
-
OoT Phantom Ganon
Oracle of Seasons/Ages concept art

Donkey Kong:
Funky Kong (Alternate)
Strikers Shirt
Strikers Charged Armor
Boxing Gloves
-
Mario Party 2 Wizard
Dread Kong (Alternate)
Ninja Kong (Alternate)
Ghastly King (Alternate)

Diddy Kong:
Cool Shades
-
Strikers Charged Armor
DK Junior suit

Pikachu:
Pichu (Clone or Alt)
Alpha/Omega Cosplays
-
Raichu (Clone or Alt)
Evil Blue Pikachu from that thing that's not out

Charizard:
Bow (Charla from the anime)
-
Dragonite (Alt or Clone)

Fox:
N64
Assault
-
James McCloud (Alt)
Tatanga (Clone)

Falco:
Assault
-
Katt (Clone)

Wolf:
N64
-
Star Fox 2
Panther (Alt)

Marth:
Roy (Clone)
-
No pants classic

Ike:
Path of Radiance
Black Knight (Alt)
-
Greil (Alt)
Ganondorf (TP Version with sword) (Clone)
Eliwood (Alt)
Hector (Alt)
Priam (Alt)
Awakening

Robin:
Hood Up
-
Morgan (Clone)
Alternate Mages: Lilina, Nino, Tharja come to mind (Clone, removes sword moves)

Ice Climbers:
-
Lolo and Lala (Clone)
Donbe and Kiraki (alt)
Balloon Fighter Suit
Excite Bike suit

Ness:
Pajamas
Paula (alt)
-
Robot Body
Poo (Clone)

Lucas:
Pajamas
Military uniform
-
Pig mask

Captain Falcon:
Blood Falcon (Alt)
-
Phoenix (Alt)
Berserker
Black Shadow (Clone)

King Dedede:
Masked
-
Meta Knight Mask
Kirby Mask
Waddle Dee Mask
King Egger (alt)

Meta Knight:
Galacta Knight
No Mask
-
Sword and Blade (Alts)
Meta Army (Alts, just mask change)
Red Concept Art

Sonic:
Metal Sonic (Alt)
-
Shadow (Alt)
Silver (Alt)

Little Mac:
Super Punchout
-
Hitmonchan (Clone)

Pit:
Dark Pit (Alt)
-
Light Warrior armor
Centurion Armor

Palutena:
Pseudo Palutena (Alt)
-
Medusa (Clone)

Pac Man:
Ms. Pacman
Pac Land hat

Mega Man:
Protoman
-
Roll
Bass

Samus:
Fusion Suit
Varia Suit
-
Justin Bailey (Defeats the purpose of Zero Suit)
Light Suit
Dark Suit
Corruption Suit
Dark Samus

Zero Suit Samus:
Fusion ending outfit
-
Justin Bailey
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